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It's okay to come in second place!

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  • 05-04-2009 6:23 PM

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    It's okay to come in second place!

     Just wanted to let the younger riders know, it's always someonne with more skills & ride faster than you. Only reason I wrote this post was because I recently had a convo with Von about the late J-Rock, and alot of accidents are because of inexperienced riders try to keep up with vet's and end up on the other side of life. Please be safe & ride within your means, you might not get there first but you'll get there. RIP J-Rock & I'm still Gunn Runnin'.

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  • 05-04-2009 7:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     if you're not first you're last...

     ricky bobby himself said it


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  • 05-04-2009 7:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    Second? Son I'ma push myself to come in there....

     

     

    "Its ok to come in last"

     

    There we go 

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-04-2009 9:17 PM In reply to

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    everyone --- yes, ride safe

     

    kevmo and snarky --- STFU

  • 05-04-2009 9:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    if you dont keep up the cops will get you!

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  • 05-04-2009 9:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    FOOLAH750:

     Just wanted to let the younger riders know, it's always someonne with more skills & ride faster than you. Only reason I wrote this post was because I recently had a convo with Von about the late J-Rock, and alot of accidents are because of inexperienced riders try to keep up with vet's and end up on the other side of life. Please be safe & ride within your means, you might not get there first but you'll get there. RIP J-Rock & I'm still Gunn Runnin'.

    +1

     But what about pushing the limits? What about riding that fine line between become a better rider and ending up on the other side of life?  I just think it's easier said than done, ya know?

    I like riding with more skilled riders because it helps me to become a more skilled rider.......the hard part is realizing when to let go of the throttle. I've had some very close calls, but with them i've learned a thing or too as well. Luckily i've been able to come out in one piece.

    And I'm glad .com/.net has introduced me to more skilled riders, and not the streets!!! God forbid I had run into one of you guys on the streets and tried to keep up!!!!!! Zip it!

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  • 05-04-2009 9:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    C ya BR 954:

    if you dont keep up the cops will get you!

     

     

    Nah sucker... if you're the only one that stops the cops'll be too busy chasing the others to give ya a ticket! 

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-04-2009 9:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    snarky:

    C ya BR 954:

    if you dont keep up the cops will get you!

     

     

    Nah sucker... if you're the only one that stops the cops'll be too busy chasing the others to give ya a ticket! 

    yup.  you do that!   and after they give you all your tickets you remember what i said Big Smile
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  • 05-04-2009 9:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    LadyPink600rr:

    everyone --- yes, ride safe

     

    kevmo and snarky --- STFU

     

     

    I actually wasn't being sarcastic. I wholly support this message, is one reason I've done almost no group rides yet. My personality makes me very likely to be keeping up, even when I know I don't have to. Part of that will push me and 'make me a better rider', but more than likely it'll just put me in a bad situation. So I ride alone, and only race against myself.

     

    And yea... slow as ballz.... so I come in last. 

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-04-2009 9:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    FOOLAH750:
     & I'm still Gunn Runnin'.

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  • 05-04-2009 10:20 PM In reply to

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    2nd place = 1st loser

     

     

     

     

    ;)

  • 05-04-2009 10:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    no.  it's not ok to come in second place.  what kind of kinder,  gentler bullshit is that?  that's why we have all these soft ass betches these days.  Confused

    never settle for second best Idea

  • 05-05-2009 1:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     

    I was telling Foolah about a gunnrunn back in 2005 ....It was with whiteboy shady and a grip of his boys. He had a new crew of youngins and I saw the domino effect of of how a few started talking shiit...

    I saw that most were new...lower end gear...it was about 5 or 8 of them and about 5 or 7 or us that GunnRunn on a daily basis... I was shock that Shady didn't try to talk these newer riders out of this madness....

    As we zipped up i could hear hessistation in the youngins voices...
    I figured I would give them a out...

    I went to them and said.

    You guys need to build up to this madness we are about to do..
    I have seen alot of guys die, and get paralysed from this.

    In the end...I told them..
    One of yall might die 2nite, or get seriously hurt from a crash...Unless you are not afraid to die you really dont want to push the edge of this envelope.

    These guys over may not be trying to die, but at the same time they dont care either...what about yall?

    They all was like Fuuck that naw man..we will meet you their....

    I then told them:
    I might be the one to die tonight...and you know...Im good with that.

    I tell this story because its one of the very few times something I said might have saved someones life....

    In the end..
    Shady died not to long after that....

     

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    Here are my Yahoo blogs to my late night GunnRunnaz Long gone now.....

     

    Farwell to A Good Ride... Rt 50 will not be the same... 700 magnify

    It was good Riding with you man, you made Night Op's eventful from 2004 to 2005...

    I remember back in 2002 when I first meet you, you were very mellow, and I could tell you didn't feel to comfortable around all the brothers at Mobile.  I notice that you would gravitate to my boy because you thought he was a white guy among a group of blacks.  The day I told you he was black also you look like I was lying, lol. ...funny...

    When we use to take a blast down 50 you would say that’s crazy...you stunt and you don't  speed. Then time past by and next thing I know this mellow non-speeding kat was out on the other side of midnight blazing with the super friends. In 02 you would come to the city with a whole crew of your boys that came from your background, next thing I know you started showing up with the American melting pot. Blacks, whites, and Asians... 

    Anyway, I have to say I'm glad I talk to you yesterday....

    Tell me peps I said what’s up...I'll catch up with yall soon....

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    Man...April 29th 2004.... 5 years now...

    Yo Foolah Mike...
    You might not know this...this is the last text messages from Jeremy b4 he was killed...
    He text you (Foolah Mike), Motor psychol Danny, and Deakwan..man..wow back when Dea was back in DC and out late night GunnRunnin also....

     

     

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    Jeremys Yahoo page...its gone now, but read his interests, lol

    http://profiles.yahoo.com/jrock2666?intl=us&os=win&ver=7,0,0,437

    7 Hours......

    I forget what time my little brother got on his bike the night he was killed, but I do know what time he called my boys and we called him after he got on...

    I have his phone im about to activate...He had ot for only a few weeks..

    The date was April 16th...

    The first biker he called

    was Deakwan at 7:55pm (No pick up)

    Deakwan called him back at 8:02 PM

    then Carlson at 7:57

    I talk to him at 10:13 PM

    I called him at 10:30pm (missed)

    He rode for a few hours then called

    Mike at 10:34pm

    Mike called him back within the same minute 10:34pm

    Jay called him at 10:46 pm

    I called him at midnight

    He check his voice mail at 12:19 am the 17th

    He called me back at 1:01 (i remember him saying he was at a strip club with mike.

    The last action on his phone was a incoming call from Danny at 2:12 AM

     

    But of all the things....when I started to look at his text messaging today, I saw that he took a picture of himself on April 16th at 2:23Pm  once I reactivate his phone I will see if I can add the very last picture of himself on here......

    I was looking at his phone book and decided to erase it.....

    I will not contact anyone who knew him and prefer them not to contact me either....

    So ......

    Now What?

     

     

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    The Begining and the End: Mindless Chatter about Accidents

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    Start:

    Some way some how, I’m always around when my friends have bad accidents and nothing happens to me. I think im spared the pain and suffering of a tear off's because the powers that be have a much larger plan for me...I'm not speaking about a God...

     

    A friend told me "I'm Going to Keep you alive" I told him I dought it, but I just realized that he has in a sort of way. He did it with a bike...The very tool that will lead to my dimise...

     

    In the Begining:

     I started riding motorcycles November 2000, took the Motorcycle Safety Federations Course April 2001 and from that point on the streets was a place of love vs. fear!

     

    When I started out it was just my lil brother Jeremy (J-Rock) and I. We rode a lot and it was so cool. I remember the first time he had his accident. It was a few weeks after we got out of the MSF class. He took a decreasing radius curve off of 395 to fast and had a easy low side.

    I was like mother hen at home looking for him since he kept his bike at my house. I fused at him at first, I later realized that I was scared for him like a parent would be; I knew he needed more seat time. Not to long later his bike was stolen and I upgraded to a new bike and got a lead on him as far as seat time. When he got his newest bike I had a whole season on him.

     

    This is where a trend started.

     

    His second accident happened after the two of us started to ride one Sunday. I remember riding like textbook style, all the proper ways one is suppose to ride. Then it happened I saw my first group of motorcycle riders. All of the bikes where Kawasaki’s. The riders look and my brother and I then gave us the black power fist in the air! I got excited and when the light changed for us I took off. This was the first time I felt the adrenaline that im addicted to now, the thirst for danger. Well after going 140mph for the first time I realized the dangers and back off. My brother flew by me and went into a curve too hot and crashed right in front of me. To this day I feel guilty about it. I have a bonified photographic memory  and events like that and seeing him in the hospital constantly floods my mind!

     

    He was a soldier, leg all sliced up and he still was amped for more. I rode with him the night before he died, by far the best ride we ever had together. My whole crew and my lil brother were all over the place. He and his best friend Foolah Mike were out quite often.  That night we stayed up talking for hours about issues he had and techniques he was trying to learn. The best time…. 

     

    I had a test and tune day scheduled for Saturday, but Friday night I was suppose to be out with him riding. I decided to start early by working on my bike and 2 others. He and Foolah Mike decide to hang out and ride. I saw him when he went out to ride and that was the last time I saw him as Jeremy. By one am he was very much dead.

     

    The End Story:

    It is now crazy that I have been around and out during damn near all my friends’ crashes. When I say this I mean I have been there for at least 90% of their accidents, yet I come away unscratched. They said 2005 is my year to crash or Die. I was ready… but instead I continually see my friends crash vs. me. I’m not doing anything different than them. Are they paying for my evils? Well it has me spooked now. On top of that the last three accidents I got a feel/vibe and I told someone at each outing “someone is going to crash tonight” I never know who, I just know that it’s going to happen. Most times I think it’s going to be me…

     

     

    Mindless chatter…

     

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  • 05-05-2009 8:30 AM In reply to

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     damn

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  • 05-05-2009 8:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    :(   This post make me very sad.   I obviously never met your brother, but I know you have occasionally had pics of him in your sig picture Von, and man, he looked JUST like you.  You coulda been twins for real.

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     Dayum......



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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    FOOLAH750:

     Just wanted to let the younger riders know, it's always someonne with more skills & ride faster than you. Only reason I wrote this post was because I recently had a convo with Von about the late J-Rock, and alot of accidents are because of inexperienced riders try to keep up with vet's and end up on the other side of life. Please be safe & ride within your means, you might not get there first but you'll get there. RIP J-Rock & I'm still Gunn Runnin'.

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    doublins:

    :(   This post make me very sad.   I obviously never met your brother, but I know you have occasionally had pics of him in your sig picture Von, and man, he looked JUST like you.  You coulda been twins for real.

    We never had corn rows at the same time, but we both had short cuts (I cut his and my hair) so whe we both had short hair cuts alot of folks mixed us up...

    I went to a cusins birthday party 2 weeks ago. I turned out to be like a family reunion, but what got me mad was an ex uncle (use to be married to my blood aunt). The dude was talking to me telling me how my older brother was???? wtf? Im the older brother....
    He told me about events from the late 70's and early 80's.???? im like my lil brother was only 3 years old????

    In the end...He thought I was jeremy Sad and Moe was the one who died on the bike Sad  oh well...he was drunk anyway... I explained the difference between us and he said sorry...all fracking night...

     

    I hate realatives  No
    It's tough not having my lil bro around...once he got older (16 years old) turned out to be my best friend.... He loan me the cash to buy my first bike...and we both rode together all the time at first. Zuki vs. Kaw.....

    He would have made it if his helmet fit better.... just that...improper fitting helmet.....the difference between life and death... April 17th he crashed...brain Dead and Died April 29th...

    To be honest...this is silly...
    But I will never wear a Shoei because of this...
    Dont get me wrong, because i know Shoei had nothing to do with this...its just the reminder that Shoei didnt have multiple shells back then and he was an Avid Shoei fan... Its the reason I stay with Aria...Ive bang my head..knock clean out and still....only slight brain issues....

    Im babbling now..ok later.

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    Not to jump on ship, but I have an interesting story myself.

    Back in 2004 when I purchased my first bike, yamaha FZR-600. My boy, who was a cousin of my closest friend, took me way out past bmore to pick it up. The same evening, i was so excited I told him to stop a mile from my house (Forbes Blvd @ MLK Jr. Hwy)  so I could ride it home. Well just as we're getting it off the truck, it starts to rain. Mind you it's probably 40 degrees out...so being the smart and sensible guy I am, i ask him to help me get it back on the truck. This fool tells me NO, it's only a mile or less....ride it home and he'll be behind me.

     I can't describe how scared I was, but I made it home safely. That was my first experience riding in the cold and rain, which happen to be my first time on a motorcycle (prior dirtbike riding). He woud pick me and the bike up on the weekends, take me up to PG Community College to practice in the parking lot. The first time I went down was in my neighborhood, and RIGHT after it happend........he screamed at me (tough love) and told me to pick up my bike.....all by my damn self!!!

    Well not too long after, probably a few months, my buddy gets an RC-51 because he just HAD to ride with me. Probably around May, I get a call that he's getting up with some of his "Gunnrun" crew. At the time I happen to be riding with some guys I just met and he didnt like riding with folks he was unfamiliar with. So I agreed to meet him at our normal spot at 7pm. Well 7pm rolls around...no show, no call. 8pm rolls around....no call, no show. At about 8:15 I decide its getting late and i gotta get ready for work the next day.

     So skip ahead to the next day, i get a phone call from by best friends mom looking for my boy (with bike). She said she gotta call from his uncle that he was in a bad motorcycle accident in largo and was pronounced dead at Bmore Shock Trauma.  I explained to her that I had not seen or heard from him since the day before, nor was I able to reach him that day. I promised her that after work I would swing past his boys house and investigate.....in hind sight i see that she was in denial about the death because she called me and asked if I had talked to him. She knew that 90% of the time we were together riding.

    Well after work i had over to largo, i was actually on my bike at the time and was a COMPLETE WRECK!!!!! The ride from work in Springfield, VA to largo was the worst i had ever had!!! So i get to the house, and the guys were not there, but the father answers the door. I didnt want to bring any uneccesary drama to their household so I leave a message with the father to ask one of them to call me. Well as I'm gearing back up (yes, as a newbie i actually wore gear!!!) the father comes out the house over to me, and tells me to "Be careful, because we had an accident around here lastnight. One of my sons friends". So I ask if he knew the name, I almost didnt want to hear his response......unfortunately it was my friend.

    My best friend had actually went MIA when he heard the news. So not only did I have to tell HIS mom that her nephew had died, I also had to tell her that I have been unable to reach her son. He had just turned his phone off.

    To make a long story short, after the accident his ENTIRE family was concerned about me still riding. I was close to his family like my own, and they were genuinely concerned about me. Sad thing is, I couldn't figure out an easy way to tell them that I would CONTINUE to ride, because I know HE would want that. After he passed, i rode SOLO. I would ride from Lanham to Brandywine, MD to ride all by myself. That's where he would take me when we were out riding.......he always told me, "you gotta learn to lean".

    I think about that first time I crashed in my neighborhood, and he told me to GO GET MY BIKE!!! He then asked me WHAT I DID to cause the wreck. I was lucky enough to learn something from that crash. It's called RIDER ERROR.

    The day my boy died, he was riding out of his mix. Motorcycles + high speed + alcohol + exhaustion = BAD......point blank period.

    If it's my day it's my day, but there are things that are avoidable.

    Everyday, month, year that I RIDE and become a BETTER rider, I know he's up there rooting for me.

    When people ask me....."how do you ride those croch rockets". I tell 'em.....

    I don't fear my motorcycle.......I FEAR MYSELF!!!!

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    This post makes ya realize that you affect people all around you. The little things dont always matter.....

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    this also remind me of when my girl's bro bought his first motorcycle, only had it a few months and asked me how to pop a wheelie. I first LAUGHED, then told him worry about KEEPING the bike on two wheels first, then worry about that other bullsheit.

    Well within the next month or so, I get a call from him.....wanting to know if anyone would like to buy his WRECKED bike. I inquire about what happen, he tells me he tried to pop a wheelie and lost it.

    I had NO WORDS for him Indifferent

    I tried to do my part and guide him in the right direction, cus I feel it's my duty. (eventhough i was only 2 years in at the time....i had TOTALED my baby not too long before that "riding" a wheelie) I knew from 1st hand experience that you gotta LEARN how to ride, before trying to do extra sheit.

    A hard head makes for a soft @ss, and I would be someone that knows!!!

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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     

     

    Well My first death came when i just started to find a group to ride with...
    I first road with  Road Runnaz back in 2002 http://www.roadrunnaz.com/ (i created the site but cant access it any more for updates)

    A few days before X-mas me and the usual Road Runnaz and Gunn Runnaz (called Independent Riders back then) suited up for a unusual warm day....
    We rolled to bmore cuting up blastind dead into the after noon sun...

    At the end of the day as it was getting dark...
    we all pulled over and said to ourselves...its amazing that no one died today...it was some crazy riding....

    After that we lost one...

    I went to the hospital and about 5 minutes later they prounced him dead....
    I remember how the family councler came out and said he was such a handsome man...very handsome face she said...

    I remember thinking that its like 3 or so days b4 X-mas and he had twin daughters...what kind of news is that to have to tell them...
    I cried out of nowhere...didnt know it was coming...didnt feel it building up....not a reaction to someone else crying...just started..

    I dip into a bathroom to hide...
    I normaly never let anyone see me cry...

    keep it smiley...

     

     

     

     

    The good ol days...
    2002 and one of my favorite old bikes....

     

    learning to GunnRunn is what kept me alive...
    Foolah Mike and myself have watched crashes...bikes explode (in harry Ess) dudes knocked out and surrounded by fire...all kinds of stuff...


    When My time come...i will look back as i decend and say....

    It was a good ride i had all these years...

     

    peace.

    (Face Book = ) Maurice Vonstallin



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  • 05-06-2009 10:11 AM In reply to

    • doublins
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    Completely random thought... did any of you guys ever blast years ago with a bald-headed black dude named CJ?  Used to have both a duc and a gsxr?  I used to work with him at LockMart back in like 2003, before I started riding, I was into cars, he was into bikes but we used to always talk about terrorizing the roads...   and I remember he'd come into work talking about this person dying or that person getting split by a guardrail, or someone plowing into the back of a car as they tried to split traffic getting onto 270 from the beltway, or someone getting highsided into the roof of a tunnel, etc while they were tearing around the highways at a buck and change.  I have no idea if he was just caw-cawing at the mouth, I have no idea who he rode with or anything as I wasn't into bikes back then, but heck if it's a small world maybe he used to ride with some of you guys.  At least at work he seemed like a cool dude.

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  • 05-07-2009 1:47 AM In reply to

    • slow231
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     this thread is erie man.  thanks for all who posted their stories.  i'm a fairly new rider and it's good to have some perspective.  RIP to the fallen.

  • 05-07-2009 2:12 AM In reply to

    • iPATT
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     This thread makes me sad. Sad Ride safe everyone.

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