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Last post 05-26-2009 7:19 PM by snarky. 14 replies.
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  • 05-23-2009 12:34 PM

    • snarky
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    Bad crash

    For anyone who frequents Ellicott City Motorsports, you might know Brent, he's one of the parts guys always at the desk. I went in there yesterday to pick up some gear I'd ordered, didn't see him (odd), but two other guys behind the counter. As I was getting my stuff, they asked if I'd "Heard about Brent". Replying "no", they informed me that he had a nasty crash Sunday racing up in Pennsylvania.

     

    I don't know specifics , but apparently he was in spot five, and the first four guys got into a pile up on a nice 4th gear (dirt, not street... I think) turn, and he ran right into the back of all them. Apparently it was all violent enough to shoot a bike off the course and take out a tree. I don't know about the other riders, but Brent smashed up a lot of stuff, and surgery was performed Sunday night. He's got an (external?) rod for his busted femer, and I believe also broke his ankle (and possibly other bones on that side... just now getting home after a night with some co-workers so my memory's sucking). He'll be in a wheel chair for at least two weeks, although the guys at the shop thought that was an optimistic amount of time, and it may be longer.

     

    He's a great guy, and wanted to get the word out in case any of you know him. I'm hoping to get together something to help raise money for those medical bills, like the Greene Turtle dealy last summer. Anyone know what to do besides walk in and ask a manager? Does it have to be for a non-profit, or can the funds raised go right to one person? Any interest in hanging out on a Tuesday evening to benefit a downed rider?
     

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

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    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-23-2009 7:01 PM In reply to

    • ptompkins
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    Re: Bad crash

     taxes only come into play when an individual is given $10,000 or more in any given year.  Now I can't remember if that is $10k from a single person (i.e. 10 people giving $10k each for $100k) or $10k from a group of people.  IRS Publication 17.5 should have that answer.

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  • 05-23-2009 8:42 PM In reply to

    • Windblown
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    Re: Bad crash

    The limit is 12k now a days. And it's based on per entity/person.  10 people can give one person 12K each and the recipient does not have to pay tax.  If an account were opened in Brents name or Brent was a signer on the account then funds could flow into it and the amount would not be taxable as long as no single user gifted more than 12K.

     And no, I'm not a CPA, so don't take this as legal advice.

  • 05-24-2009 11:20 AM In reply to

    • zx600
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    Re: Bad crash

    Does Brent have any health insurance to cover any of his medical expenses?  This sounds like he was racing when this happened.  You would hope that anyone involved in racing would have some health insurance.

    I hope he heals up quick. 

    For all those rich people out there, I looked up the gift tax rules and $12,000 is the limit; per person for it to be non-taxable; however there does appear to be another exception for money paid for medical expenses directly to a medical institution.

     

    Gift Tax

    The gift tax applies to transfers by gift of property. You make a gift if you give property (including money), or the use of or income from property, without expecting to receive something of at least equal value in return. If you sell something at less than its full value or if you make an interest-free or reduced-interest loan, you may be making a gift.

    The general rule is that any gift is a taxable gift. However, there are many exceptions to this rule.

    Generally, the following gifts are not taxable gifts:

    • Gifts, excluding gifts of future interests, that are not more than the annual exclusion for the calendar year,

    • Tuition or medical expenses you pay directly to a medical or educational institution for someone,

    • Gifts to your spouse,

    • Gifts to a political organization for its use, and

    • Gifts to charities.

     

    Annual exclusion.   A separate annual exclusion applies to each person to whom you make a gift. The gift tax annual exclusion is subject to cost-of-living increases.   
    Gift Tax Annual Exclusion
    Year(s) Annual Exclusion
    1998 - 2001 $10,000
    2002 - 2005 $11,000
    2006 - 2008 $12,000
    For 2008, you generally can give a gift valued at up to $12,000 each, to any number of people, and none of the gifts will be taxable.

     

     

  • 05-24-2009 4:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    zx600:
    Does Brent have any health insurance to cover any of his medical expenses?  This sounds like he was racing when this happened.  You would hope that anyone involved in racing would have some health insurance.
     

     

    I would assume he does (and am hoping so). But even with insurance it's frickin expensive. I know my co-pays are just a fraction of the real thing, and my last (easy, planned in advance) surgery cost near a grand all told. 

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-24-2009 10:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    i wrecked before and im cool. do a fund raiser for me Confused

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  • 05-25-2009 8:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    dayum... tough crowd 

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-25-2009 9:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    I am sure there are a lot of guys that have wrecked during races and track days and they don't have fund raisers.  

    IMO, Fundraisers are for people with unusual circumstances or for the families if someone dies.  

  • 05-25-2009 9:41 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

     I had a 80,000 motocross wreck and no one made a fund raiser for me. Good luck with the fundraiser.

  • 05-26-2009 9:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    snarky ,

    we had a fundraiser for my brother who was paralyzed 2 yrs ago this coming august . i think its a great idea what you are trying to do and more than that you have the humanity to want to do so.. 

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  • 05-26-2009 10:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    Just post up where the event is on tuesday, if thats still the plan i'll try to make it out.

  • 05-26-2009 10:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    dont you think if he was that bad off his friends/family would do something for him.  not a customer that orders parts from him.

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  • 05-26-2009 4:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    C ya BR 954:

    dont you think if he was that bad off his friends/family would do something for him.  not a customer that orders parts from him.

     

     

    I just don't understand why you care so much to see this not happen? One thing I like about riding is the sense of community... pull up at random hick gas station in Ohio, get to chat with a guy about what he did back in his days, etc etc. I heard about someone who had a nasty accident. As was pointed out above, even with insurance that crap can get expensive. So I figured "Gee, I know some other riders, maybe they'll see a brother that's hurt and come out for a beer".

     


    Boy was I wrong...

     

    I have no idea how 'bad off' he is. Nor did I care.... not 6 months ago ya'll were screaming about everyone getting help from the government in basically every area of our lives, but then when you're presented with an opportunity to help a fellow rider by showing up and drinking a beer you not just decline to come, but try and shoot it down? For real?

     

    I know I've seen in at least one of Von's threads about his recovery that it meant a lot for people to be visiting him when he was recovering, don't you think that even if one has insurance it might help to see other riders showing support?

     

    Don't worry, I'm sure the Greene Turtle will shoot this down since its such an un-worthy cause.
     

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
  • 05-26-2009 5:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    snarky:

    C ya BR 954:

    dont you think if he was that bad off his friends/family would do something for him.  not a customer that orders parts from him.

     

     

    I just don't understand why you care so much to see this not happen? One thing I like about riding is the sense of community... pull up at random hick gas station in Ohio, get to chat with a guy about what he did back in his days, etc etc. I heard about someone who had a nasty accident. As was pointed out above, even with insurance that crap can get expensive. So I figured "Gee, I know some other riders, maybe they'll see a brother that's hurt and come out for a beer".

     


    Boy was I wrong...

     

    I have no idea how 'bad off' he is. Nor did I care.... not 6 months ago ya'll were screaming about everyone getting help from the government in basically every area of our lives, but then when you're presented with an opportunity to help a fellow rider by showing up and drinking a beer you not just decline to come, but try and shoot it down? For real?

     

    I know I've seen in at least one of Von's threads about his recovery that it meant a lot for people to be visiting him when he was recovering, don't you think that even if one has insurance it might help to see other riders showing support?

     

    Don't worry, I'm sure the Greene Turtle will shoot this down since its such an un-worthy cause.
     

    good luck with your fundraiser! 
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  • 05-26-2009 7:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Bad crash

    C ya BR 954:
    good luck with your fundraiser! 
     

     

    Thanks homey

     

    And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:

    "We will not go quietly into the night!

    We will not vanish without a fight!

    We're going to live on!

    We're going to survive!"

    Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
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