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  • 05-07-2009 11:16 AM In reply to

    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    YAAAAHHHHH

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  • 05-12-2009 8:51 PM In reply to

    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    Von... Your first story took me back . I mean way back... it was like a day or a few days before that ride we all were at his house. I was new myself back then too. It was a house full of fun family and friends eating and talking crap.. A few peeps roled in on bikes. That was he day i That was the first time danny and I had played chess. And we all were watching those goofy tyler perry tapes. That was the first day I met him and he did not know me from adam but welcomed me with open arms into his family and friends as I was with haga and she devil and the kids.. WOW the things we remember .. Mel
    vonstallin:

     

     

    Well My first death came when i just started to find a group to ride with...
    I first road with  Road Runnaz back in 2002 http://www.roadrunnaz.com/ (i created the site but cant access it any more for updates)

    A few days before X-mas me and the usual Road Runnaz and Gunn Runnaz (called Independent Riders back then) suited up for a unusual warm day....
    We rolled to bmore cuting up blastind dead into the after noon sun...

    At the end of the day as it was getting dark...
    we all pulled over and said to ourselves...its amazing that no one died today...it was some crazy riding....

    After that we lost one...

    I went to the hospital and about 5 minutes later they prounced him dead....
    I remember how the family councler came out and said he was such a handsome man...very handsome face she said...

    I remember thinking that its like 3 or so days b4 X-mas and he had twin daughters...what kind of news is that to have to tell them...
    I cried out of nowhere...didnt know it was coming...didnt feel it building up....not a reaction to someone else crying...just started..

    I dip into a bathroom to hide...
    I normaly never let anyone see me cry...

    keep it smiley...

     

     

     

     

    The good ol days...
    2002 and one of my favorite old bikes....

     

    learning to GunnRunn is what kept me alive...
    Foolah Mike and myself have watched crashes...bikes explode (in harry Ess) dudes knocked out and surrounded by fire...all kinds of stuff...


    When My time come...i will look back as i decend and say....

    It was a good ride i had all these years...

     

    peace.

  • 05-12-2009 9:53 PM In reply to

    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    C ya BR 954:

    if you dont keep up the cops will get you!

     

    You ain't bullshiittin' neither. That's the straight dope.

    Jeff Vega I miss you brother.
  • 05-12-2009 11:25 PM In reply to

    • vonstallin
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

     Man the longer you stay in...the more you witness death. Its not funny, but who would figure that something as simple as riding on 2 wheels is like puting your life on the line (well more than if you was in a car).

      The worst ones are the accedents that leads to death and it wasnt the riders fault...like the intersection / red light blaster....
    Anyway....Lost a lot of people out here..and alot are severly injured...
    This is a activity that you have to love with your heart to stay in it. I know I do..

    I miss so many people that are not here...starting with my brother Jeremy aka J-Rock...wayne aka Godson....Dorian...and a lot more... I miss the guys that are paralysed like Chris aka Lite Dog, and Spence... Its tough to go and see them because its a reminder that you will not always die in this sport but can get seriously injured for life.

     I use to keep a camera and cam corder back in the days...I just wanted to record every minute of this Bike World...

    Back in the day....when we all use to have fun...


    Drunken Comedy....forgive the giggling....lol


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/OG.wmv

     hang out spots....


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/Hangouts.wmv


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/GunnRunnaz2-Intro.wmv


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/GunnRunnaz01-Intro.wmv


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/gunnrunnaz-1-myrtle-beach-part-1.wmv 


    http://www.gunnrunnaz.com/gunnrunnaz/movies/gunnrunnaz-1-myrtle-beach-part-2.wmv



    gsxr401:
    Von... Your first story took me back . I mean way back... it was like a day or a few days before that ride we all were at his house. I was new myself back then too. It was a house full of fun family and friends eating and talking crap.. A few peeps roled in on bikes. That was he day i That was the first time danny and I had played chess. And we all were watching those goofy tyler perry tapes. That was the first day I met him and he did not know me from adam but welcomed me with open arms into his family and friends as I was with haga and she devil and the kids.. WOW the things we remember .. Mel
    vonstallin:

     

     

    Well My first death came when i just started to find a group to ride with...
    I first road with  Road Runnaz back in 2002 http://www.roadrunnaz.com/ (i created the site but cant access it any more for updates)

    A few days before X-mas me and the usual Road Runnaz and Gunn Runnaz (called Independent Riders back then) suited up for a unusual warm day....
    We rolled to bmore cuting up blastind dead into the after noon sun...

    At the end of the day as it was getting dark...
    we all pulled over and said to ourselves...its amazing that no one died today...it was some crazy riding....

    After that we lost one...

    I went to the hospital and about 5 minutes later they prounced him dead....
    I remember how the family councler came out and said he was such a handsome man...very handsome face she said...

    I remember thinking that its like 3 or so days b4 X-mas and he had twin daughters...what kind of news is that to have to tell them...
    I cried out of nowhere...didnt know it was coming...didnt feel it building up....not a reaction to someone else crying...just started..

    I dip into a bathroom to hide...
    I normaly never let anyone see me cry...

    keep it smiley...

     

     

     

     

    The good ol days...
    2002 and one of my favorite old bikes....

     

    learning to GunnRunn is what kept me alive...
    Foolah Mike and myself have watched crashes...bikes explode (in harry Ess) dudes knocked out and surrounded by fire...all kinds of stuff...


    When My time come...i will look back as i decend and say....

    It was a good ride i had all these years...

     

    peace.

    (Face Book = ) Maurice Vonstallin



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  • 05-13-2009 9:11 AM In reply to

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    Von... OG had my cryin over here..

    Shyt I am late for work... 


    R.I.P. Godson... As your soul rests in peace, we will keep your memories alive!
    Tha Realest thing ever wrote! - What's unfortunate is that muh'fuggaz is so fukkin passionate about this sport that gives almost NOTHING back but simply takes ya money, takes ya time, sometimes takes ya life... - Cannon
  • 05-13-2009 9:40 AM In reply to

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  • 05-13-2009 10:41 AM In reply to

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    Well I know I'm not one for caring about "1st" since my son was born. I really haven't road with a lot of folks on here but heard stories.  I would check out Von post on the Gunn Runner and Bayboy showed me a lot of clips as well. It really make a person think when your on those 2's if my time is coming or not. I live in York Pa and I just shake my head when I see folks with no gear on.

    RIP to all the fallen riders.  Yes

    God bless to every one and be safe this year.

     

     

    No pun intented, so don't get it twisted folk.....
  • 05-17-2009 11:11 AM In reply to

    • jaynd
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    wow.......just read through all this. i dont get on this forum too often. but i made a couple posts today and i always check out this section.

     

    personaly, i've been down four times in two years. i got my F4i and i didnt do ANYTHING but RIIIIDE. i racked up 30k miles in 10 months on that thing, then i ''totaled'' it in a highside, dragging knee under the Solomons Bridge, and got my '08 RR. i totaled that bike in Feb. in Prince Fred. w/ a very stupid early morning mistake on my way to work (target fixation). i lowsided and slid into a tree, striking it w/ my back and basically bending backwards around it. i remember the bike going down, sliding through the grass......but i ''blacked out'' and dont remember hitting the tree. i came to, and i was lying on my back at the edge of the woods at 5:30am on a side road w/ little morning traffic. not once did a car drive by. i realized i couldnt move my left arm, and i tried to sit up but couldnt (broken tailbone, broken hip socket, fractured middle/lower vertibrae). i wiggled my toes and figured ''ok, i dont think im paralyzed'', and i got my phone out of my pocket. i called 911 but at the time i was unsure of what the name of the road was, that i was on. the phone cut out/died before i could explain where i was and i knew it was no use to try again (my phone was a p.o.s.). i FREAKED OUT........i was screaming, ball'in, yelling.....no cars, no one to hear me and i couldnt get up. I blacked out, came to again and didnt know how much time had passed, but i knew obviously that there was STILL no one around me. i stopped the tears, looked up and the stars and figured ''well this is it''. i didnt know the extent of my injuries but i knew it was the worst pain i've ever felt in my entire life. i blacked out again, and when i woke back up there were flashing lights and people all around me. they were cutting off everything i had on, asking me questions, and getting me ready for a backboard and neck brace. i was put into the medivac and it took everything in me to remain calm. i layed at the edge of the woods for almost two hours before they found me. they tracked where i had made the phone call from through gps on my phone. 

     

    i got to PG shock trauma and found out i had broken my left arm, fractured some middle and lower vertibrae, cracked my right hip socket, broke my tailbone, and almost bit completely through my tounge. my family and friends were there and i told them this was it, the pain wasnt worth it and i'd stay off two wheels. well, spent a week at UMMC and had surgery (now have a titanium rod/ten screws in my left arm and a screw in my right hip), spent a week at Kernan treatment facility doing therapy, spent a couple months in a back brace, and almost three months on crutches. the pain is still there, the thoughts of what happened are still there, i bought a back protector, and as soon as i was released to go home i would ride my F4i out of my garage, down my driveway, do a circle in the culdisac, then back in the garage. honestly the worst part is hearing my family talk about it. going to doctor appointments at UMMC and hearing my mom or my g/f talk about their time there not knowing what was going on w/ me or my condition. i've had accidents before.......1st one struck a deer in May of '08 (ambulance, chipped bone in my thumb), highsided in July '08 (medivac, no injuries other than concusion...dont remember ANYTHING from the accident), lowsided my RR in Oct. '08...rear tire caught something slick (rode it home, no injuries), then my last accident 2/16/09 that i spoke about above. i had 14k miles on that RR in five months. riding has been my life for the past couple years and i since have gotten back out there on my F4i. i ride much different, i have alot more in the back of my mind as to what can happen. My family and friends were actually supportive of me getting back out there. they said they woudlnt want to tell me to stop doing something i love so much, but to remember that they want me around.

     Von's right when he said you dont always die on these things, but your life CAN still change drastically and you can be paralyzed. all the paramedics, doctors, and therapists were amazed that i wasnt paralyzed. being in the back brace and using the crutches was enough for me. i was in a wheelchair my week at Kernan and i dont think i could live my life so restricted and DEpendent. i wake up in the morning w/ back pains, my left arm has occasional pains......all reminders to me.

     

    to the fallen, my you rest in peace. to the newbs.....GEAR UP, to everyone else, stay safe out there, but have fun.

  • 05-17-2009 2:29 PM In reply to

    • vonstallin
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    jaynd:

    wow.......just read through all this. i dont get on this forum too often. but i made a couple posts today and i always check out this section.

     

    personaly, i've been down four times in two years. i got my F4i and i didnt do ANYTHING but RIIIIDE. i racked up 30k miles in 10 months on that thing, then i ''totaled'' it in a highside, dragging knee under the Solomons Bridge, and got my '08 RR. i totaled that bike in Feb. in Prince Fred. w/ a very stupid early morning mistake on my way to work (target fixation). i lowsided and slid into a tree, striking it w/ my back and basically bending backwards around it. i remember the bike going down, sliding through the grass......but i ''blacked out'' and dont remember hitting the tree. i came to, and i was lying on my back at the edge of the woods at 5:30am on a side road w/ little morning traffic. not once did a car drive by. i realized i couldnt move my left arm, and i tried to sit up but couldnt (broken tailbone, broken hip socket, fractured middle/lower vertibrae). i wiggled my toes and figured ''ok, i dont think im paralyzed'', and i got my phone out of my pocket. i called 911 but at the time i was unsure of what the name of the road was, that i was on. the phone cut out/died before i could explain where i was and i knew it was no use to try again (my phone was a p.o.s.). i FREAKED OUT........i was screaming, ball'in, yelling.....no cars, no one to hear me and i couldnt get up. I blacked out, came to again and didnt know how much time had passed, but i knew obviously that there was STILL no one around me. i stopped the tears, looked up and the stars and figured ''well this is it''. i didnt know the extent of my injuries but i knew it was the worst pain i've ever felt in my entire life. i blacked out again, and when i woke back up there were flashing lights and people all around me. they were cutting off everything i had on, asking me questions, and getting me ready for a backboard and neck brace. i was put into the medivac and it took everything in me to remain calm. i layed at the edge of the woods for almost two hours before they found me. they tracked where i had made the phone call from through gps on my phone. 

     

    i got to PG shock trauma and found out i had broken my left arm, fractured some middle and lower vertibrae, cracked my right hip socket, broke my tailbone, and almost bit completely through my tounge. my family and friends were there and i told them this was it, the pain wasnt worth it and i'd stay off two wheels. well, spent a week at UMMC and had surgery (now have a titanium rod/ten screws in my left arm and a screw in my right hip), spent a week at Kernan treatment facility doing therapy, spent a couple months in a back brace, and almost three months on crutches. the pain is still there, the thoughts of what happened are still there, i bought a back protector, and as soon as i was released to go home i would ride my F4i out of my garage, down my driveway, do a circle in the culdisac, then back in the garage. honestly the worst part is hearing my family talk about it. going to doctor appointments at UMMC and hearing my mom or my g/f talk about their time there not knowing what was going on w/ me or my condition. i've had accidents before.......1st one struck a deer in May of '08 (ambulance, chipped bone in my thumb), highsided in July '08 (medivac, no injuries other than concusion...dont remember ANYTHING from the accident), lowsided my RR in Oct. '08...rear tire caught something slick (rode it home, no injuries), then my last accident 2/16/09 that i spoke about above. i had 14k miles on that RR in five months. riding has been my life for the past couple years and i since have gotten back out there on my F4i. i ride much different, i have alot more in the back of my mind as to what can happen. My family and friends were actually supportive of me getting back out there. they said they woudlnt want to tell me to stop doing something i love so much, but to remember that they want me around.

     Von's right when he said you dont always die on these things, but your life CAN still change drastically and you can be paralyzed. all the paramedics, doctors, and therapists were amazed that i wasnt paralyzed. being in the back brace and using the crutches was enough for me. i was in a wheelchair my week at Kernan and i dont think i could live my life so restricted and DEpendent. i wake up in the morning w/ back pains, my left arm has occasional pains......all reminders to me.

     

    to the fallen, my you rest in peace. to the newbs.....GEAR UP, to everyone else, stay safe out there, but have fun.

     

    damn man.....
    good to hear you made it thru....thats wild...Im more worried about paralysed than dieing.... dieing is easy....going thru injuries is the hard part...mentaly and physicaly, when im on the track or street...its always a hint of it in the far corner of my brain..just a little.

    Most already know about my accident...9 out of 10 for dead.. 7 months down n stuff...ton of metal...spline, vertebre, scrotums, arm, wrist pelvic, intestines, main blood line etc...

     

     http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/vonstallin/2006_zx10rr_accident/?start=all 

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  • 05-17-2009 3:08 PM In reply to

    • jaynd
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    omg Von.........wow.............insane!

     

    here are my xrays from my most recent accident.

     

     

  • 05-17-2009 3:14 PM In reply to

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  • 05-17-2009 4:10 PM In reply to

    • zx600
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    Re: It's okay to come in second place!

    wow, this thread is pretty intense.  I am glad that you survived jaynd and that you got a phone call off for help. Von you have seen a lot in your riding days.  Crazy stuff.

    Riding comes with risks and it is good to know about them.  Life is short.  Ride safe y'all.

     

  • 05-19-2009 6:49 PM In reply to

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    Whitefolks...dgit:
    Well I know I'm not one for caring about "1st" since my son was born. I really haven't road with a lot of folks on here but heard stories.  I would check out Von post on the Gunn Runner and Bayboy showed me a lot of clips as well. It really make a person think when your on those 2's if my time is coming or not. I live in York Pa and I just shake my head when I see folks with no gear on.

    RIP to all the fallen riders.  Yes

    God bless to every one and be safe this year.

     

     

     

    Man I was in York this past weekend (well spring grove actually).  Got some beautiful roads up there: rt 561, rt 216...wow!  But I tellya what: some of these fools riding around out here would find themselves in the middle of somebody's field or up in somebody's tree trying to "come in first" out there

    Veni Vidi Vinci

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